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User: logicvsworld (posted by redtranslation)
Date: 2007-08-16 13:15
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i live with a variety of housemates of different racial, economic, social backgrounds ranging in ages from 21 to mid 70s. two of them are a elderly married couple. he seems to be fairly healthy/active. she is mostly comatose and confined to a wheelchair. she's on oxygen, is fed through a tube and as far as i know completely unable to care for herself and unaware of her surroundings. i don't know her exact condition and i'm not about to ask.

there was a whispered discussion among my other housemates recently about her quality of life and his continuing ability to care for her.

questions: if you were suddenly stricken with illness/accident/disease that would leave you in her situation, how would you want your future handled?

would age or marital status effect that in any way?

is it murder to allow someone to die, denying them life support options if their minds are basically gone?

do you think that the responsibility of care for a spouse should be removed as age overtakes them and someone else(family, social care workers) should decide what happens next?

personally, if i can't adequately care for myself, kill me. but what do you think?
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Feral: narcosynthesis
User: dacnomaniac
Date: 2007-08-16 20:59 (UTC)
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Keyword:narcosynthesis
I have made it extremely clear to my family and friends that I haven't committed suicide *solely* because they don't want me to. And that if something should permanently incapacitate me, whether physically or mentally, I want to be overdosed on an opioid and thus killed as soon as possible, if they have to sneak me my OCs or a kratom tree into the hospital to do it.

I used to have fond daydreams of freezing to death in my sleep in an alley in my city, homeless and alone with no one to care.

In short, since I can't wait to get out of this body as soon as possible, my opinion on the topic is completely biased. Any time the topic of assisted suicide comes up, the image of being trapped in unbearable pain or infirmity by a fence constructed of the so-called "love" of other people springs to mind and I get very angry. :p
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Feral: indian dog
User: dacnomaniac
Date: 2007-08-16 21:01 (UTC)
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And as for this part -- "is it murder to allow someone to die, denying them life support options if their minds are basically gone? "

IMO, it's a mercy. If it's murder, too, whatever. But I don't think so. Just because they can't communicate pain or despair doesn't at all imply they're not being felt. (And if someone makes a counterpoint about joy I'm going to spit blood on your shirt. My white ass.)
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Cold Musings: igtku
User: coldmusings
Date: 2007-08-17 01:04 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:igtku
Take a shovel to the back of my head, please. Shit, make it my face. I don't need an open casket anyway.

I think it's actually more cruel to keep them alive. It's selfish. They're only kept alive for the sake of the family/person caring for them, so they don't have to feel bad about the loss.

Odds are, these people know they're fucked. They're probably miserable, possibly in pain if not hopped up on drugs, which - even if drugs are used, they're zombified and worthless anyway.
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